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    The Black Phone – The Cinematic Schematic Review

    June 29, 2022
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    When news broke director Scott Derrickson was leaving Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness in 2020 due to creative differences, the moviegoing internet and fans of the film’s predecessor were understandably concerned. Why would such a talented director who fought so hard for the first film leave a project he was supposedly passionate about?

    The answer, at least partially, is the director’s latest project reteaming him with his Sinister writer, C. Robert Cargill, The Black Phone. Does this movie pivoting the director back to horror live up to the bold shift in career direction?

    In this episode of The Cinematic Schematic, we’re joined by first-time guest, Matt Donato, returning co-host, Laron Chapman, and Caleb Masters to answer that question.

    Based on the Joe Hill short story of the same name and set in 1978, The Black Phone follows Finney (Mason Thames), who becomes the latest in a string of kidnapped children by a part-time magician only known as “The Grabber” (Ethan Hawke). After waking up in a stripped-down basement, Finney is haunted by the ghosts of the kidnapped children who occupied the space before him. Meanwhile, his sister Gwen(Madeleine McGraw) uses every available resource to find her brother before it’s too late.

    We start with this week’s podcast discussion with the ice breaker question, “If you had no choice but to be trapped in a horror movie, what decade of horror movie would you prefer to be stuck in and why?” before jumping headfirst into our spoiler-free reviews of the films. We close out the conversation by crossing through the veil of spoilers to discuss the film’s use of ghosts, psychics, and the Derrickson/Cargill duo.

    Is this the return to horror Derrickson fans have been waiting for, or do we end up wishing he’d stuck to the Strange sequel? Tune in to hear our full review and spoiler-filled analysis.

    Special Guests

    Matt Donato

    RT-approved Los Angeles-based film critic published on IGN, SlashFilm, Nerdist, Fangoria, Polygon, Bloody Disgusting, Collider, Atom Insider, Flickering Myth, Dread Central, and Fandom

    Co-Founder of Certified Forgotten

    Follow Matt on Twitter @DoNatoBomb


    Laron Chapman

    Award-winning Oklahoma filmmaker

    Follow Laron on Instagram @blackmoviemagic


    About The Black Phone

    According to IMDB, The Black Phone can be described as:

    After being abducted by a child killer and locked in a soundproof basement, a 13-year-old boy starts receiving calls on a disconnected phone from the killer’s previous victims.


    If you’re interested in The Black Phone…

    Laron Chapman Recommends:

    Movie – Room (2015) – Now Streaming on Fubo and Showtime

    Movie – Prisoners (2013) – Now Streaming on Hulu


    Matt Donato Recommends:

    Movie – The Boy Behind the Door (2020) – Now Streaming on Shudder

    Movie – Deadly Games (1989)– Now Streaming on Shudder



    Caleb Masters Recommends:

    Video Game – Heavy Rain (PS3/PS4/PC)

    Video Game – The Quarry (PS4/PS5/Xbox One/Xbox Series X/S /PC)


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    Caleb Masters
    Caleb Masters is a film critic, podcast host, and producer with more than fourteen years of experience in media and film criticism, fueled by a lifelong love of pop culture and a passion for media production. As editor-in-chief of The Cinematropolis, he oversees the site’s editorial direction while hosting and producing the podcast The Cinematic Schematic, where he reviews new releases, interviews filmmakers, and explores other prominent voices in entertainment alongside co-host Laron Chapman. He previously served as president of the Oklahoma Film Critics Circle (OFCC) and currently lives in Seattle, Washington with his wife and three dogs. Follow him on Letterboxd or Instagram @CMastersTalk
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